Curse

tristania289 · Aug 19, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Does the cold damage from Avatar of Grenth triggers the damage of Conjure Frost ? So I don't have to wield an icy weapon. Thanks for answers.

The_Kai · Aug 19, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

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Originally Posted by Wiki

Anomaly! You do not deal Cold damage while in this form.

Wiki says it doesn't, do a test

theonetheonlybruce · Aug 19, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44

you could just use the skill grenths fingers

silavor · Aug 19, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

In writing, yes it does. In actuality, aNet has left Avatar of Grenth in the dust for MONTHS. We are not amused.

AidinSwiftarrow · Aug 19, 2008, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Grenth kinda sucks IMO : /

Flightmare · Aug 19, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

Well, Grenth used to be cool...

tristania289 · Aug 19, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Well, I'm gonna use it in AB. And it will be really useful against monks with [Guardian]. I just want to use a vampiric weapon to pressure the enemies, that's why I'm wondering if the Avatar gives you cold damage.
Yeah, I did check it out in Wiki. It's a bug, I hope Anet fixes this soon.

-Lotus- · Aug 20, 2008, 04:28 AM // 04:28

[Wild Blow] > [Avatar of Grenth]

If you add wounding in there it just makes it silly.

the original concept of the skill was way to powerful to balance, but the current version just sucks.

daze · Aug 20, 2008, 10:32 AM // 10:32

Tristania, your avatar pic is my desktop walpaper at home.

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

[Wild Blow] > [Avatar of Grenth]

??? saying [[wild blow] is greater than [[avatar of grenth] is like saying thumbprints > tv shows... in no way are those 2 skills related...
Is [wild blow] > [avatar of grenth] your version of the chewbacca defense?

and [onslaught] /> [whirling charge]

-Lotus- · Aug 20, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Wild Blow is unblockable. all Grenth does is make you unblockable from enchanted foes. how is that not related?

Bowstring Badass · Aug 20, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

Wild Blow is unblockable. all Grenth does is make you unblockable from enchanted foes. how is that not related?

Seems very related to me.

Honestly Grenth = trash now. Balthazar is more useful.

If your going to run an avatar then Melandru or Lyssa would be best for PvE possibly Dwayna if its a lot of melee hate hexes.

And daze [skill]whirling charge[/skill]>[skill]onslaught[/skill]. Simply because no cast time less means of it being stripped and I can keep [skill]wounding strike[/skill].

Bobby2 · Aug 20, 2008, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

Wild Blow is unblockable. all Grenth does is make you unblockable from enchanted foes. how is that not related?

Well, I'm not defending [avatar of grenth] here, but this much needs to be said

[wild blow] is just 1 attack every 8 sec. Awesome if you want to counter Stances, but it doesn't do squat delivering pressure against [Aegis]/[Guardian]. Against Grenth, [[Patient Spirit] on any target becomes a liability.

Distant relatives, perhaps. But to say these skills were designed with the same goal in mind is sheer stupidity.

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

And daze [skill]whirling charge[/skill]>[skill]onslaught[/skill]. Simply because no cast time less means of it being stripped and I can keep [skill]wounding strike[/skill].

QFMFT.

-Lotus- · Aug 21, 2008, 05:18 AM // 05:18

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

[wild blow] is just 1 attack every 8 sec. Awesome if you want to counter Stances, but it doesn't do squat delivering pressure against [Aegis]/[Guardian]. Against Grenth, [[Patient Spirit] on any target becomes a liability.

the thing is that the only blocking foes you should really be pressuring are ones with stances. if a foe has guardian then the monk is paying attention to them and you are better off on a different target anyways. Aegis is a little bit of a problem, but you should have some enchantment removal on your team.

I do see your point though, i revise my earlier statement to:

[Wild Blow]+[Wounding strike] > [Avatar of Grenth]

daze · Aug 21, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

Wild Blow is unblockable. all Grenth does is make you unblockable from enchanted foes. how is that not related?

When i watch CSI which is a tv show, sometimes i see thumbprints.
Very loosly related

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

Well, I'm not defending [avatar of grenth] here, but this much needs to be said

[wild blow] is just 1 attack every 8 sec. Awesome if you want to counter Stances, but it doesn't do squat delivering pressure against [Aegis]/[Guardian]. Against Grenth, [[Patient Spirit] on any target becomes a liability.

Distant relatives, perhaps. But to say these skills were designed with the same goal in mind is sheer stupidity.

QFMFT.

-Lotus- · Aug 21, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50

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Originally Posted by daze

When i watch CSI which is a tv show, sometimes i see thumbprints.
Very loosly related

plz make sense. and waste less space, you just quoted a post and it's answer and added some gibberish...

Bowstring Badass · Aug 21, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by daze

When i watch CSI which is a tv show, sometimes i see thumbprints.
Very loosly related

Its very related you are just dumb. Wild Blow is unblockable, Grenth makes you unblockable to enchanted foes. That seems related to me as both part of that statement say UNBLOCKABLE. Do we need to make a poster with 3 colors for you and your stupidity?

Mister PMA · Aug 28, 2008, 04:49 AM // 04:49

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

Do we need to make a poster with 3 colors for you and your stupidity?

If people didn't make comments like this, imagine how much more we could get done....As for the question of the thread starter that skill is bugged, like you already know haha.

daze · Aug 28, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

Its very related you are just dumb. Wild Blow is unblockable, Grenth makes you unblockable to enchanted foes. That seems related to me as both part of that statement say UNBLOCKABLE. Do we need to make a poster with 3 colors for you and your stupidity?

if you would have noticed how i said "loosely related", maybe you wouldn't have resorted to spewing fecal matter =}

[wild blow] = 1 attack every 8 seconds that costs 5 energy each time
[avatar of grenth] = always unblockable every attack (as long as they are enchanted)

my previous statement remains in tact because if you can wrap your brain around the term "loosely related" you may understand that it is completely different from the term "not related in the least bit"

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Originally Posted by Mister PMA

If people didn't make comments like this, imagine how much more we could get done....

i used to let it get to me when flamers talk crap and call names, but now i actually find it a bit amusing... I have to admit, to a point i may press the buttons of flamers. Just accept that there are rude people out there who get a self esteem boost by attempting to belittle other people. If these people spot an opportunity to call someone "stupid" they pounce on the opportunity like a cat on a mouse. My psychology class says 99.9% of the time it is to compensate for something. Like lack of life goals, personal success, and even sexual inadequacy. If someone can try to make themselves feel superior about a subject, then it takes light off of what aspect in which they are inferior. But that is where it gets scary because i would much rather be inferior in Guild wars than in RL
Just understand that it is human nature. I say let the flamers flame on. Because what really matters is i have a baby, paid off house, great job, and an evil baby's mama. =}

Cebe · Aug 28, 2008, 08:16 AM // 08:16

So, what's the problem with using Wild Blow and Avatar of Grenth?

They are quite clearly similar in the respect that they both are unblockable, and while Grenth has a condition attached, they both have quite distinctly different uses. I don't understand why everyone is arguing over this.

-Lotus- · Aug 28, 2008, 07:29 PM // 19:29

I stand by my statement that wild blow is more useful (considering that AoG is elite).

targets with blocking stances should be handled by wild blow.
targets with guardian are already the target of a monk, so you arent going to kill them.
targets with aegis are really the only place AoG shines, and thats not enough of a reason to bring the elite...

[Wild Blow] > [Avatar Of Grenth]

@Daze: please stop making useless posts, its really annoying.